Tuesday, October 25, 2022

Marjorie Taylor Greene's historical error compared to that of (former) Senator James Henry Webb Jr. of Virginia

Among others, the Daily Beast ran a story about an historical error by Congr. Greene:

Marjorie Taylor Greene Tries to Take a Stand for ‘Confederate Soldiers’ Using Monument to Union Troops

link: https://www.thedailybeast.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-steps-on-a-rake-in-defending-confederate-soldiers

The post included text related to Union Colonel Wilder


Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene tried to make a show of herself standing up for Confederate soldiers and “our nation’s history” on Tuesday night but failed spectacularly and instead revealed her own confusion about the Civil War. The MAGA representative visited the Wilder Brigade Monument in Georgia to claim that the memorial recognizes “Confederate soldiers.” But despite Greene’s apparent rush to pay her respects to what she believed was a Confederate monument, the monument actually pays tribute to Union troops that battled the Confederates. The Union Army's John T. Wilder unit — later nicknamed the Lightning Brigade— took the fight to Confederate troops during the Civil War. A Greene spokesperson didn't return The Daily Beast's request for comment. The MAGA-loving lawmaker, beloved within Trumpworld, later edited the Truth Social post, which originally read: “Tonight, I stopped at the Wilder monument in Chickamauga, GA, which honors the Confederate soldiers of the Wilder Brigade. ... I will always defend our nation's history!”


IPBiz notes that Senator Webb made an even worse historical error over 15 years ago, effectively elevating Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest. No one discussed this much.


From an IPBiz post in the year 2007.


**from IPBiz, March 2007 **Also note relevant text in 88 JPTOS 1068. Pertinent to a claim by Senator Webb of Virginia that Nathan Bedford Forrest was never beaten by a West Point educated commander, see footnote 28 of 88 JPTOS 1068: See also footnote 16 of Robert A. Frezza, A Pocket History of the Personnel Claims Act, 1989 Army Law. 43 (1989) ["In 1863 Colonel John T. Wilder, an Indiana industrialist commanding a brigade in Rosecrans' Union Army of the Cumberland, entered into a interesting contract with his men to buy them Spencer rifles, the best breech-loading infantry weapon available ..."]; note also James H. Wilson's cavalry raid of March 1865 employing Spencer rifles in which a successful charge was made against forces of legendary Confederate commander Nathan Bedford Forrest, even though Union forces were outnumbered 6 to 1. See http://www.bufordsboys.com/UnionCavalrymanVI.htm. James H. Wilson graduated from West Point. The fact that Wilson defeated Forrest at Selma, which contradicts Webb's assertion, is hardly a secret; from Wikipedia: In 1865, Forrest attempted, without success, to defend the state of Alabama against the destructive Wilson's Raid. His opponent, Brig. Gen. James H. Wilson, was one of the few Union generals ever to defeat Forrest in battle. The point here is not to diminish Forrest's military skills. It should be self-evident that cavalry troops armed with repeating weapons (here Spencer carbines) will have a tremendous advantage over troops with single shot weapons. Custer proved this at Gettysburg on July 3, 1863 against troops of J.E.B. Stuart, and, unfortunately for Custer, re-proved this on June 25, 1876, where he played the role of the technologically-deficient party. [see 88 JPTOS 1068, 1073] *** Also, Nathan Bedford Forrest was a character in the novel The Guns of the South (Harry Turtledove) in which time-travelers alter the path of the Civil War. One notes that, at the beginning of the Centennial period (circa 1960), a major US magazine ran a feature describing what might have happened if the South had won. In both the 1960 and 1992 stories, the South and North become separate countries. [If you are wondering, MacKinlay Kantor's Civil War Centennial piece for LOOK, "If the South Had Won the Civil War" originally appeared in the November 22, 1960 issue of LOOK, producing a deluge of correspondence from readers, leading to a related book in 1961."]


Other stories about Greene




https://www.salon.com/2022/10/19/marjorie-taylor-greene-thought-she-was-honoring-confederate-soldiers-at-union-army-monument_partner/

Georgia Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene on Tuesday appeared to publicly struggle with her state's history during the Civil War. "Tonight, I stopped at the Wilder Monument in Chickamauga, GA, which honors the Confederate soldiers of the Wilder Brigade," Greene posted to Truth Social. "I will always defend our nation's history!" Union Army Colonel John T. Wilder commanded the brigade of mounted infantry armed with 7-shot Spencer repeating rifles. The Indiana War memorial states, "'From the many, one' may best describe Col. John T. Wilder's Lightning Brigade. The unit was made up of 'citizen soldiers' from the farms of Indiana and Illinois. The brigade was unique because it was created as a unit that could move with the speed of cavalry but fight with the power of infantry."

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